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Message 6 of 6: Ed Trayner on 19/03/2012
David

Many thanks for your thoughts. My personal stance is with you and many/most of the members of the site looking at a £350+ rate for a days training as an associate and a much higher rate for direct work. I have written on this and fully grasp and as best I can; advocate the fundamentals of a full blown freelance business model.

That said and perhaps playing a devils advocate I might suggest:

of “admin, product development, business development, marketing, self-improvement and so on” and then “office space (even if at home), equipment, advertising and marketing, insurance”; as I understand it the profile of the likely associate in the instances in question is that these activities/protocols/etc are not part of their business model and therefore do not need to be funded through revenue!

Some sectors (ICT, H&S, Hospitality) have historically been low payers (our own research showed this) so I would suggest it is not a new phenomenon for some.

As for clout to regulate associate rates; can we have any more than the government who is in some quarters I am informed depressing rates to below £200 pd. A number of the recruiters on TrainerBase have framework agreements governed by competitive requirement which run counter to the hopes of this government to energise the private sector. And we set up the Association with a view to gain some clout but that didn't get anywhere.

I think I will stick to the knitting of running a site to help trainers find business acknowledging that the rate issues will always be here (to comment on).

Regards

Peter
AKA Ed

BTW; the recruiter in question has been using the site for over 6 years and a review of their rate indicates that they are the same as they were in 2006. They haven't increased but at least they have been squeezed like many others. Not that that is any concellation for those used to better rates.

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